In order to avoid anachronistic references to the Westphalian system, I am proposing to move (as per wp:be bold) this article to Maynila (historical polity) in 48 hours unless there are objections supported by appropriate academic sources. I'm aware that ancient Maynila has often been referred to as a "Kingdom" in the past, but scholarship simply does not support this, and the use of the term is not so universal that the use of a more accurate term would be counterindicated. In the meantime, I'm leaving this note here as a request for discussion and a call for any objections. Thanks - Alternativity (talk) 04:53, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
Oh, also, please note: In light of objections to the non-familiarity of the term "polity" in non-academic circles, the term currently used on the article is "historical entity." I suppose that description is so vague that people might make the initial mistake of thinking this is a Biological entity (an ancient sea monster of some sort, maybe), for the lack of consensus on an acceptable specific word I guess we'll have to live with / tolerate this. - Alternativity (talk) 08:40, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
Maynila (historical entity) → Seludong – This is to disambiguate the page from modern Manila, also Seludong is the name of the historical state. Natural disambiguation over parenthetical disambiguation as per WP:NCDAB Hariboneagle927 (talk) 03:42, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
I know this article has been moved recently. But upon review of article links and available sources, and Google books stats between Kingdom of Maynila and Seludong, i think we might have to move this back to its old title following WP:COMMONNAME. The only problem would be the disambiguation. Check this out: Seludong: 260 results vs. Kingdom of Maynila: 1,140 results.--RioHondo (talk) 17:52, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: page moved. (non-admin closure) TonyBallioni (talk) 17:46, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
Seludong → Kingdom of Maynila – The article was mistakenly moved to its alternative, albeit much older name, following natural disambiguation which ignored its WP:COMMONNAME as reflected in the article's references. The article had been created under Kingdom of Maynila by Alternativity and remained there for the longest time until changes to its disambiguation were introduced. However, the vast majority of academic sources continue to refer to it as "Kingdom of Maynila" and only few mentions of "Seludong." Kindly refer also to the above discussion and Google Books statistics. RioHondo (talk) 09:51, 15 February 2017 (UTC)